14 Jun 2026 16:06
What are the most convincing arguments both for and against the existence of an allmighty God?
In 'The Three Body Problem', we see a prominent scholar and professor being publicly beaten by the communist party for not denying God's existence. He goes on to say that 'Science hasn't provided any definitive answer'. So I'm curious, .
Saw a video the other day that compared Norse mythology with Christianity. It painted an eerily striking argument for the God worshiped now likely being either Loki or Balder. The garden of Eden and Apple stuff is almost copy/paste the way he put it.
14 Jun 2026 16:14
what _actual real evidence_ exists for a god?
the bible doesnt count as evidence.
the bible doesnt count as evidence.
14 Jun 2026 16:16
I recommend a web search for the "god of the gaps" fallacy. You have discovered a 300+ year old concept.
14 Jun 2026 16:17
Since you’re asking science: The scientific method needs to be used to prove, not disprove, the existence of things.
14 Jun 2026 17:03
There is one interesting connection that I have found.
In 1999, researchers in New York fired very powerful lasers at each other. When they intersected, they caused an electron and a positron to spring out of the vacuum.
If light can cause the creation of matter, then there's the possibility, however slim, that a hermit sitting on a hill blazed out of his gourd on some divine bush could have been given some sort of insight that perhaps he was linguistically incapable of accurately communicating.
I'm not saying that this definitively proves anything. I just find it interesting that a hermit on a hill 7,000 years ago could have somehow deduced in any way that light was one of the fundamental particles of the universe, or that matter could be made from light.
In 1999, researchers in New York fired very powerful lasers at each other. When they intersected, they caused an electron and a positron to spring out of the vacuum.
If light can cause the creation of matter, then there's the possibility, however slim, that a hermit sitting on a hill blazed out of his gourd on some divine bush could have been given some sort of insight that perhaps he was linguistically incapable of accurately communicating.
I'm not saying that this definitively proves anything. I just find it interesting that a hermit on a hill 7,000 years ago could have somehow deduced in any way that light was one of the fundamental particles of the universe, or that matter could be made from light.
14 Jun 2026 17:09
Well I would think the god that makes the most money off of ignorant sonsabitches and the catholic god certainly wins that shit!
14 Jun 2026 17:42
Using science to explain God is like using breakdancing to explain engineering.
14 Jun 2026 17:43
There are zero "gods". Any and all are fantasy created by humans.
Stop trying to figure it out.
Stop trying to figure it out.
14 Jun 2026 18:57
...what started off as a legitimate question has now become an extremely interesting (and amusing) social experiment. Keep the nonsensical, non-scientific answers coming, folks.
14 Jun 2026 19:19
A definitive answer is impossible unless God makes itself known. There is no evidence for god and thus no scientific answer. God is a belief, belief is not scientific.
14 Jun 2026 19:54
I think you’re giving _Genesis_ more credit than it deserves. It doesn’t say God used light to create anything. In most translations, it just says God created the Heavens and the Earth without specifying how. It says at first the Earth was dark and formless, until God commanded light to exist, creating day and night and evening and morning.
I’d be much more impressed if _Genesis_ told us that the entire universe was compacted into a hot dense state ~14 billion years ago, and that during its earliest moments it passed through a decoupling of the four fundamental forces, then went through a brief moment of incredibly rapid expansion, etc. etc. … but it doesn’t. Instead it incorrectly states that the Earth predates the
stars, that day and night predate the Sun, that life on land predates life in the seas, and more. If a divine entity was capable of relating the origin of the universe and life on Earth to an ancient author, there’s no reason it couldn’t do so in a way that’s unambiguous to modern scientifically-literate readers.
I think it’s far more likely there’s no connection at all, and people only see one there because they specifically went and tried their hardest to find one, no matter how tenuous.
I’d be much more impressed if _Genesis_ told us that the entire universe was compacted into a hot dense state ~14 billion years ago, and that during its earliest moments it passed through a decoupling of the four fundamental forces, then went through a brief moment of incredibly rapid expansion, etc. etc. … but it doesn’t. Instead it incorrectly states that the Earth predates the
stars, that day and night predate the Sun, that life on land predates life in the seas, and more. If a divine entity was capable of relating the origin of the universe and life on Earth to an ancient author, there’s no reason it couldn’t do so in a way that’s unambiguous to modern scientifically-literate readers.
I think it’s far more likely there’s no connection at all, and people only see one there because they specifically went and tried their hardest to find one, no matter how tenuous.
14 Jun 2026 20:20
Okay, but the question I am being asked is what are the most convincing arguments for their being a god?
And my response is, is that science has redone a thing that God was claimed to have done, and it created matter.
If you are not a biblical literalist, if you can accept the idea that the Bible is correct, but not flawless in its data communication, then it has at least the tiniest little spider's web strand of reason that says that the hermit Moses, seven-odd-thousand years ago, received some sort of divine revelation that contained information that was later proven to be scientifically true, which lends at the very least a mote of dust worth of credence to the existence of God.
And my response is, is that science has redone a thing that God was claimed to have done, and it created matter.
If you are not a biblical literalist, if you can accept the idea that the Bible is correct, but not flawless in its data communication, then it has at least the tiniest little spider's web strand of reason that says that the hermit Moses, seven-odd-thousand years ago, received some sort of divine revelation that contained information that was later proven to be scientifically true, which lends at the very least a mote of dust worth of credence to the existence of God.
14 Jun 2026 21:38
I’m an atheist, but my argument for a god of some sort is that we probably don’t exist out of nothingness
14 Jun 2026 23:17