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French retailer mocks €1039 Steam Machine with “Stim Machine” RX 9060 XT PC for €999

#31 JelleWho
I have so far had 4 advance replacement (get new hardware, ship old hardware back later) for free. Even outside warranty period. And this story is the same for all my friends as far as I know off.

So I guess we both had quite some different experiences
#32 GreenCrunch
And then there's those of us who don't play a ton of modern games - For a ton of older games you don't need high end hardware. 🔥
#33 Dremor
Honestly, I have no link with LDLC, other than buying components from time to time there (they are basically France small scale Microcenter). It has been quite a while since I last bought something from them though.

But I found that tentative at viral marketing quite funny, and wanted to share.
#34 Dremor
Valve explicitly said it is to be considered as a PC, focussed on playing game, not a console. Thus a PC price point, not sold at loss.

Their word, not mine. 👍
#35 Dremor
The definition of what is or is not depends a lot on the person.
In my case it is pretty simple: Can I plug a keyboard and do spreadsheets on that fucker? Yes. Then that's a PC. As soon as you can do more than play games and watch movies on it, it stop being a console.
#36 mnemonicmonkeys
Somes states don't even have sales tax
#37 mnemonicmonkeys
No, but SteamOS does support HDR over HDMI
#38 grinning_serpent
If you are tech savvy, don't waste their money like that. Help them learn how to build their own, or point them to prebuilts with much better cost: performance ratios.
#39 grinning_serpent
8GB is plenty for 1080p. Especially since you're not actually rendering at 1080p. And it's RDNA4 vs 3, so it's a more powerful chip in general.

B650 is fine but I didn't look too closely at the specific mono model. 350W PSU is what stood out to me as a major issue since pcpp lists ~307W power usage. 350 isn't nearly enough.
#40 grinning_serpent
Yeah, Valve gets high marks for engineering for sure.
#41 87Six
350 isn’t nearly enough.


Yea you get a single spike in power draw and that PC crashes. No way that shitty PSU can handle peak power draw if both CPU and GPU kick in at once
#42 grinning_serpent
They're wasting their money then. But fools have a way of accruing money they don't deserve, for whatever reasons.
#43 87Six
This Dremor guy just hates everything that isn't a PC.

It's baffling to me how he's commenting about it without knowing a sliver about the purpose of the product, or how it's built.

And I'm a PC guy too. I'd never buy a steam machine, but compared to our usual consoles, the SM is a breath of consumer-friendly fresh air.

Also, releasing SteamOS is a fucking goated move by Valve. One that Sony or Microsoft would have never made with their consoles.
#44 Nibodhika
Cool, that looks like a beefy system for that price, glad to see options, but:

It doesn't list sizes, mini ITX is usually significantly larger than the Steam Machine.
Are they shipping it with SteamOS and will they support it? The page seems to imply it's coming bare and pointing you to a tutorial on how to install it yourself and marking that as a positive.
Will it have CEC? I see no mention of it anywhere.
Will it support low power standby and fast resume? Especially during games? I know that's mostly a software thing, but are they making sure it's supported here?
Can it be woken from that state with a controller?
Does it have an internal steam controller antenna?
Or a wifi one?
Or a Bluetooth one?


Looks like a good build considering current pricing, but realistically it's missing a bunch of the core features of the Steam Machine that seems to fly over people's heads
#45 grinning_serpent
At ~310 estimated usage you'd probably want at least a 450 to be safe I think.

With only 350 you'd probably need to undervolt or set power limits, which beyond obviously limiting performance (but at least something the Steam Machine suffers from too) isn't exactly "it just works."

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