I watched the Super Mario Galaxy Movie (spoilers)

I keep forgetting it exists. I wasn't impressed by the first one, but admittedly I just saw D&D before it and it was comparitively better just on the fan service alone.

So if the second one cranks up the references and fan service, maybe it will be better.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't hold up as a film per se, as it seemed like a bunch of set pieces loosely strung together. But... I don't care.

One of my favorite podcasts was discussing the Mario movies and they came to this same conclusion. One of them said that criticizing them or any other "childrens" movies makes about as much sense as criticizing "Mary Had a Little Lamb." It's something you do because it's fun and passes time, you enjoy it, then it's done. It's not really meant to have substance or be important.

There were times I felt the pacing lagged a little bit, but I thought it was fine for eye candy. I really liked the 2D Star Fox scenes and would love to get a short mini-series in that style.

It definitely does. have way more references.

I think it's fair to discuss and criticize films, even if they are "just for kids". Plenty of children's films have a deeper story or teach a lesson. Look at Illumination's first film, Despicable Me. The film is full of heart, but it's also got comedy.

It's also fine to enjoy something and criticize it. I enjoyed many different scenes from the Super Mario Galaxy movie and I think any Mario fan will enjoy watching it. But is the movie ultimately forgettable? Also yes.

I think I had similar impressions. Loved the fast pace, great animations, the plethora of references to all sorts of games. It's a nonstop audiovisual treat of a nostalgia trip.

Thinking about it after, some of the plot really makes me mad. Mainly the backstory of Bowser's bed time story to Jr. Other stuff like that, everything that happens just happens or gets moved on by the dumbest, hollowest reasons. There's no excuse for the choppy story. It can be for children, it can be action focused, but the little bit that is there doesn't have to be frustratingly vapid.

And yet... I come away overall really liking it. I'd hoped I could say without caveats that it was great, and I can't. But I was smiling the whole time, and it didn't overstay the welcome.

I agree and I made many of the same criticisms myself, but there is a balance to be found with the level/tone of the criticism. A lot of people were weirdly angry and hateful with their reactions. Like well done for getting so triggered by a kids movie? It was pretty embarrassing on their part.

I definitely agree that some people take things too dramatically. People love to say something is a 10/10 masterpiece or (more commonly) the worst movie ever made. There is plenty of nuance and in between ratings, and it's also fine to judge a film overall by what it was trying to be.

I think a lot of it was just the usual anti-Nintendo/anti-corporation circlejerking people like to do now. There was a bit of a hate movement against the first one too, except it didn't go anywhere because it was genuinely good.

I liken media consumption to food consumption. "It's just for kids" is a STUPID argument to defend a poor movie. Maybe not specifically this Galaxy movie, but many _abysmal_ movies have been defended with the same logic.

Why?! Why would you _defend_ feeding your children literal unnutritious slop?? If it were food, would you say, "I don't care if it has no vitamins or minerals and is loaded with sugar, it's _for children._" If you say yea that's fine, I'd say you're a terrible parent. Period.

Same goes for media. Just because it's "for kids" should NEVER mean vapid, pointless trash should ever be viewed as _good._ There are TONS of classics that are "for kids", but have a hell of a lot of heart and good writing/animation/etc, even if they have zero jokes "for the parents".

To accept mediocre as acceptable for children is straight up just throwing away the next generation's future because certain people are too stupid to realize that children need to become functional adults some day.

I just watched it last week myself and I was so happy that they fixed up the music. I still can't believe the first movie thought taking a Kart track to the Kong Kingdom needed 'Take On Me'.

Personally it didn't really do anything for me. The best part, like the first one was the music to me. The rest is mid to bad in my eyes, even as a nintendo fan, but i am glad people enjoy it nonetheless

I honestly hated that Fox McCloud. He didn't sound like on my N64 (I don't mean the voice, the attitude was all wrong) and he didn't look like in my SNES manual. Much too slick and safe.

I seem to be the only one who actually likes the look of the newest remake.

I recently watched it too and really didn't like it. The first movie had references but still tried to have a story, this one was just a mess imo. The animation was good at least but all the references felt superficial and had no weight.