A woman drives with both hands on the wheel. Her phone sits face-down on her lap. No officer pulls her over. No lights flash. Weeks later, a $1,251 ticket arrives in the mail. The evidence: a single frame from a Camera surveillance app. The charge: phone use while driving.
Automated camera companies market their devices as automated license plate readers โ tools for catching stolen cars, flagging warrants, and aiding serious investigations.
Sold as a Crime Tool. Used as a Fine Machine.
11 Jul 2026 23:18
Unconstitutional. Get that stupid ass shit dismissed in court.
11 Jul 2026 23:25
Get it dismissed, and then sue the department that sent the fine.
11 Jul 2026 23:38
Yes, but the process is also a punishment.
12 Jul 2026 00:01
Might have more luck suing the company running the camera software which flagged it.
12 Jul 2026 00:11
What's unconstitutional about it? Genuinely asking.
12 Jul 2026 00:12
When traffic cameras are found to be unconstitutional itโs generally under the fourth amendment (unreasonable searches and seizures, requires probable cause for a search warrant). I donโt know if thatโs how this case would shake out, but a ticket issued by a robot for having a phone in your lap face down is dumb as hell even if itโs not unconstitutional.
12 Jul 2026 00:19
The Constitution guarantees the right to confront your accuser in court, which you can't do with an automated camera. It used to be a guaranteed win if you showed up at all because the camera itself couldn't hire a lawyer and present an argument.
12 Jul 2026 00:19
Let's be sure to name and shame, for anyone who missed it: Georgia and Florida.
Company is - you guessed it - Flock.
12 Jul 2026 00:20
Plenty of lawyers that work on contingencies if they think you have a worthy case.
12 Jul 2026 00:25
Not sure why you're being downvoted.
It's the sixth amendent.
For of such a short document it is ridiculous for any American not to know their rights. Unfortunately the internet has been taken over by the ignorant.
12 Jul 2026 00:30
It doesn't have to. They send a representative from the camera company whose job it is to show up in court and rationalize their bullshit at the judge. I know this because I actually had to go through this process once, many years ago, to fight a clearly fraudulent ticket from one of these damn fool things in our local downtown.
12 Jul 2026 00:36
I don't know what town it is exactly (Kirkland or Kenmore, WA), and they had a speed limit posted as 30mph., but gave my friend a ticket for going over 28 in a 25 zone. They grayed out the speed limit in the photo they sent that was approved by a cop. My friend would've had to go and get a picture of the sign to prove what assholes they were. I remember the sign and know for a fact that it said 30. Not enough to fight it, but enough to stay the fuck away from that town.
12 Jul 2026 00:46