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Traffic Camera Captures Woman Driving With Her Phone on Her Lap (Face Down), The State Mailed Her a $1251 'Public Safety' Ticket

#1 spaghettiwestern
A woman drives with both hands on the wheel. Her phone sits face-down on her lap. No officer pulls her over. No lights flash. Weeks later, a $1,251 ticket arrives in the mail. The evidence: a single frame from a Camera surveillance app. The charge: phone use while driving.

Automated camera companies market their devices as automated license plate readers โ€” tools for catching stolen cars, flagging warrants, and aiding serious investigations.

Sold as a Crime Tool. Used as a Fine Machine.


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#2 Soulphite
Unconstitutional. Get that stupid ass shit dismissed in court. ๐Ÿ˜‚
#3 just2look
Get it dismissed, and then sue the department that sent the fine.
#4 FartMaster69
Good luck with that.
#5 Philote
Yes, but the process is also a punishment.
#6 WhoIzDisIz
Might have more luck suing the company running the camera software which flagged it. ๐Ÿ‘
#7 hogmomma
What's unconstitutional about it? Genuinely asking.
#8 just2look
Fuck it, sue them too. ๐Ÿ‘
#9 Catoblepas
When traffic cameras are found to be unconstitutional itโ€™s generally under the fourth amendment (unreasonable searches and seizures, requires probable cause for a search warrant). I donโ€™t know if thatโ€™s how this case would shake out, but a ticket issued by a robot for having a phone in your lap face down is dumb as hell even if itโ€™s not unconstitutional.
#10 PabloSexcrowbar
The Constitution guarantees the right to confront your accuser in court, which you can't do with an automated camera. It used to be a guaranteed win if you showed up at all because the camera itself couldn't hire a lawyer and present an argument.
#11 EnsignWashout
Let's be sure to name and shame, for anyone who missed it: Georgia and Florida.

Company is - you guessed it - Flock.
#12 Clent
Plenty of lawyers that work on contingencies if they think you have a worthy case. ๐Ÿ™‚
#13 Clent
Not sure why you're being downvoted.

It's the sixth amendent.

For of such a short document it is ridiculous for any American not to know their rights. Unfortunately the internet has been taken over by the ignorant.
#14 dual_sport_dork
It doesn't have to. They send a representative from the camera company whose job it is to show up in court and rationalize their bullshit at the judge. I know this because I actually had to go through this process once, many years ago, to fight a clearly fraudulent ticket from one of these damn fool things in our local downtown.
#15 pelespirit
I don't know what town it is exactly (Kirkland or Kenmore, WA), and they had a speed limit posted as 30mph., but gave my friend a ticket for going over 28 in a 25 zone. They grayed out the speed limit in the photo they sent that was approved by a cop. My friend would've had to go and get a picture of the sign to prove what assholes they were. I remember the sign and know for a fact that it said 30. Not enough to fight it, but enough to stay the fuck away from that town.

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